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August 5, 2010

Sometimes, after listening to the news or a talk show, I find myself walking in circles. I have even, while walking down through the woods to the stream, awakened as if I was in some kind of fog asking myself how has our country and the world around us come to be in such a precarious state. Those that are running my country seem to not care how they effect the ‘everyday’ man & women. More to the point is how do we allow them to make laws that effect our every action in contrary to the desires of the majority of people?

I believe I may be on to a thread of and idea as to why this happens, but I have to digress and move off topic for a bit. Every generation’s adults seem to long for the ‘old days’. Is hind sight really 20/20 or do we see our youth through rose colored glasses? When I was growing up in the 1950’s we had a lot of what could be called ‘fear’. I am not talking about the fear of the USSR or the US starting a necular war, although we did practice in school hiding under our desk when there was an attack, like that would really protect us.

Maybe my choice of the word fear is incorrect maybe it should be ‘respect’. But to a young teen or pre-teen I am sure the word was fear. It was for all forms of authority, from our teachers to the policeman. Even the local store owners and our neighbors were (respected). Yes maybe that would be a better word. The fear part came in when we did not respect these authority people and our parents found out about it. In those ‘good old days’ one never questioned authority. It would mean a good smack to the butt if we questioned a teacher or disrespected a policeman or gave a hard time to any store owner and our parents found out.

Today there is no genuine respect for authority………Our children are now taught to question authority and think for themselves. Is this freedom or a path that has lead to our current state of affairs? They have been taught the ‘if it feels good do it’ and ‘what do (( I )) get out of it’ philosophy. They are now thought to look out for themselves and the rest of the world can take care of itself. Yes there were injustices in the ‘good old days’ but these were balanced with that respect for others.

Society today now has our children learning what is right and wrong from the internet and there friends. The very teachers in our schools brought up in the 60’s and 70’s are presenting our children with a very different view of the world, morality and the people that run it than when we were brought up with. The parents of today have to work much more now just to stay even and this focus of time lends to less time with there children. This less time drives our children to get there guidance from anyone but their parents.

Solutions…….Like many of my postings its a mixed bag, looking almost hopeless on the one hand and looking promising on the other. We must be the teachers of our children. We must be the one’s to teach them what is right and wrong. We must teach them to respect all people. We must give them a moral base with which to face this ‘new’ un-easy world. We must do this every hour of every day we are with them because if we are not there to be there teachers, someone else will teach them.

If we are there for them every moment we can be, and we show them that actions have consequences, maybe just maybe when the grow to adulthood they will not just think about themselves but about the world around them…

update 8/4/2010
Today one man decided that what 7,000,000 voters said they wanted did not matter. A judge today ruled that the gay marriage ban in California is not legal. Another reason, I guess, to not bother voting.

19 Comments leave one →
  1. del permalink
    August 5, 2010 9:20 pm

    I can feel your pain Pete. But we have to vote. This is what this country is about. We cant give in.
    The dumbassification of America can be awakened again. I hope.
    You are in a place where most of us aren’t. I hope to see this country stand strong and tall like it should with the diverse cultures that are here but we need to get the entitlement mentality out of thier heads and the only way to do that is get gov out if our lives as much as it is. Our founding fathers wanted a republic not a democracy. We .red to teach this. Our gov schools want this out of our childrens heads. It’s up to us to teach and hopefully they will listen or they will be doomed to the gov teet.
    But vote with your hope for this gov. We can do it.
    You are in a place I long to be when I get to be in your situation. I just want to be able to be there without gov being what it is today.


    • August 6, 2010 2:04 pm

      No, Del, I won’t ever give up voting to many good people have died giving me that right, it is just at times it just seems so fruitless. If we can not even vote out the bums in our city and state elections how can we hope to clean out Washington?


  2. AussieAlaskan permalink
    August 5, 2010 9:58 pm

    Where to start……one cannot ask/expect the government to provide everything and then expect to have choices. The less someone else gives/provides one, the more freedom one has to decide how things will be on one’s own terms. This may not be up to “the Jones’ “standard but it will be what the individual can choose/accept/be responsible for and not be beholden to anyone else for, nor answer to anyone else for. Your choice, your decision, your action, you don’t owe anyone anything for it and you live with it.

    Perhaps someone will say this is too severe, but in this day and age it doesn’t hurt to give it a thought.


    • Del permalink
      August 5, 2010 10:31 pm

      Yes Aussie you make valid points………Thinking is a good thing and to be able to do it with freedoms that our founding fathers set forth are our destiny….


    • August 6, 2010 2:12 pm

      If we look back to our country’s foundation the government had one purpose to protect its citizens and enforce the constitution. The entitlement program’s we have today were never mandated by our founding fathers. I am sure they would rebel against a government so involved with it’s citizens lives.


  3. Rosalyn permalink
    August 6, 2010 5:02 pm

    I probably don’t have the quote entirely correct…. Any government big enough to give you every thing you want is big enough to take everything you have.
    Too many people have the “entitlement” mentality now. Children grow up with no consequences to their actions because to actually spank a child is considered child abuse. So they reach adulthood and expect the no consequences to continue and what a rude awakening. Jail time.
    Whoever decided that “reasoning” with a 2 year old is the way to teach them something, must not have had children. They need a parent, not another buddy. Parents also need to teach by example, the “do as I say, not as I do”, doesn’t work either. A smack on the butt never ruined a child and childhood is the only time you can really train or teach them right from wrong and compassion and all the other things you hope they will grow up knowing.


    • AussieAlaskan permalink
      August 6, 2010 7:49 pm

      I have heard that quote too, Ros, and I think it is so true. And I agree that children should be “brought up” – not “allowed to develop” – which they will REALLY do if they are brought up!!


    • August 7, 2010 2:46 pm

      Way to go Rose. My dad was a child abuse expert but I seem to have come through ok. (hey stop smiling). Showing our children that every action does have some consequence may open there eyes a bit.


  4. kara permalink
    August 8, 2010 2:17 pm

    growing up i know i learned by example if i did something wrong i got my a** smacked and truthfully i have all sort’s of respect for my mom because of it,,i also think that a lot of our problem’s really started in the 60’s with those free love, free thinking,, free everything hippies.,,they let there kids run around and wouldn’t discipline them so when they got older they did the same it’s just a vicious circle.. and now that those kids are grown up they are now the ones writing the book or running for government and there the ones voting,, so we’re all screwed


    • August 9, 2010 1:10 pm

      And don’t forget, Kara, they are also the ones teaching in school! So they pass on the ‘what’s in it for me’ way of thinking to the children they teach.


  5. xpipelyner, (Jon) permalink
    August 9, 2010 4:33 am

    Rose and all,
    One of my favorite quotes is from who I feel was the best president we ever had, Ronald Reagan when he recited this: “One of the most dangerous things one can hear is ‘I’m from the gov’t and I’m here to help.'” Don’t remember if the exact word was “dangerous” but pretty close. I, too, was disciplined by my mother with the back of the hand and an angry glare from Dad and I’m so thankful for that as I’ve gone through my life watching others go in and out of jail or dead mostly because of lack of guidance at home where I believe it all starts. This “time out” crap makes me ill, and as we all know the gov’t through its feel-good programs has taken just about all responsibility from parents and a lot of them are too busy to notice anything but the perceived convenience of it all. A lot of parents would rather be their child’s best friend than be a parent with the end result being their child’s worst enemy because they were there but not there, if you know what I mean. Good luck to the USA, we’ll need it.


    • August 9, 2010 1:07 pm

      Can’t add much to what you said Jon. I think today most parents are hampered by having to chase the $$$ to just stay even, but they are just not spending enough time keeping an eye on what there children are doing. Maybe being satisfied with what is needed and less with what we want to keep up with everyone else. Would give them enough time to, as you said, be a parent not a friend.

      Thanks for the comment, I wish I had written it.


  6. Daddy permalink*
    August 10, 2010 12:08 pm

    “Today one man decided that what 7,000,000 voters said they wanted did not matter. A judge today ruled that the gay marriage ban in California is not legal. Another reason, I guess, to not bother voting.”

    I think it’s still very important to vote. I looked it up and, in addition to the 7,001,084 people who voted for same sex marriage with Prop 8, there were 6,401,482 people who voted against it. So it’s actually pretty even. Out of 13,743,177 valid votes, there was just a 4.5% difference. That’s amazingly even.

    Wikipedia notes:
    “Moreover, the wording of Proposition 8 was precisely the same as that which had been found in Proposition 22, which, as an ordinary statute, had already been invalidated by the Supreme Court.

    “On November 13, 2008, the California Supreme Court asked California Attorney General Jerry Brown for an opinion on whether the Court should accept these cases for review and whether the measure should be suspended while they decide the case. On November 19, the Court accepted three lawsuits challenging Proposition 8, which consolidated into Strauss v. Horton.

    “After the Supreme Court upheld the voter initiative, a suit, Perry v. Schwarzenegger was filed in a Federal District Court in San Francisco. On August 4, 2010, U.S. District Chief Judge Vaughn R. Walker overturned Proposition 8 with a temporary stay to allow suspension of the ruling pending appeal.”

    So I do not think it’s merely “one guy” deciding against the wishes of 7 million voters.
    I think it’s a hotly contested issue in California that has swayed back and forth through the years, and this is just the latest pendulum swing. But the movement itself, I believe, is our goverment actually working properly. No dictator is saying “this is how it is” and there is no recourse. This is not the Taliban. We can argue our points, sway voters, raise opposition, appeal a verdict, take it to a higher court, and keep hammering it out till we get it right.

    That’s why there are so many amendments to the constitution.
    Because it’s all just a work in progress.


    • AussieAlaskan permalink
      August 10, 2010 1:37 pm

      With all due respect, why does a matter such as this require government consideration?


  7. Rosalyn permalink
    August 10, 2010 3:09 pm

    I guess it became a government item when everyone decided that sex was a subject to be flaunted all over the place. My personal opinion is that sex and everything pertaining to it should be a private matter and no one else’s business, between consenting adults. Consenting adults being the key words here.
    I hate how parents are dressing their small girls like mini-hookers and showing them off in public, then outraged if some old pervert pays attention to them. Really, what do they expect? Letting boys butts hang out in loose baggy prison jeans (no belts allowed in prison) does nothing for the public, either. Those are things that parents do still have a say in. They may not be able to smack their little darlings in public, but they can control how they look.


  8. AussieAlaskan permalink
    August 10, 2010 6:41 pm

    I agree with you again, Ros, particularly the first paragraph. I suspect that the government consideration is due to various religious interests and tax/financial related issues, and THAT opens a whole ‘nuther can of worms, again with which Anne Rand would likely not agree.

    Good topic, Pete – we have all enjoyed :-)


  9. Rosalyn permalink
    August 11, 2010 4:15 pm

    LOL, AussieAlaskan, if we are going to continue meeting like this, i would like to ask that you either call me Rose or Rosalyn. Thanks.


  10. AussieAlaskan permalink
    August 11, 2010 10:39 pm

    Done, Rose/Rosalyn :-) Regards.


  11. Rosalyn permalink
    August 12, 2010 3:06 pm

    Thanks, I appreciate that.


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